Thursday, May 22, 2008

First (and last?) Infusion

Tuesday I had my first Tysabri infusion. It went very well in that the nurse was good and I had no side effects. I feel no different than I did before. The thing about MS treatments, they don’t do anything to address present symptoms; they are designed to help lower the probability of an exacerbation in the future. But they might not. I guess it is better than nothing, but you actually have no way to know if it is helping.

The only problems I had during the visit were with check-in and check-out. We rode up in the elevator with an elderly couple, who were going to the same place we were. Of course we let them go first and even got the door for them. They seemed very kind, but at the window, man they were pokey. Apparently one of them was a new patient and I stood there for 18 minutes waiting to sign in (7 of those minutes were when Mrs. Pokey looked for her driver’s license.) Kara was seated and shot me two “incredulous” looks. I mean, I can understand a little slowness; I feel like an 80-year-old some days, but that was crazy slow.

The infusion center is at my neurologist’s office so I was familiar with the office. When I went to check out (2 ½ hours later) there was a back-up at the check-out desk. I’d never seen that before at this office. I was 6th in line so I took a seat. After a few minutes of no movement I looked up and guess who was checking out? That is right. And they were there for a doctor’s visit, not a two-hour infusion. Why were they still there? Wait, dumb question. The desk was trying to schedule a follow-up appointment and had to repeat the information several (like six) times. I know it is insensitive to poke fun at old people, especially in a neurologist’s office. I was in no hurry nor really bothered. I was just was humored by it. At least I knew the date to avoid for my follow-up!

Unfortunately, the worst part of the day was ahead. When checking out I got ready to make my co-payment - $20, maybe $25.

“OK Mr. Hixon, that will be $1,040.”

I said nothing. I was in a stupor. Dollars? Seeing my look, she said, “Wait, it won’t be that much. The procedure is $5,200, but you only have to pay 20% of the “allowable” amount which is somewhere around $2,500. Oh, yeah, that is a lot better. Only $500. So lemme see, if I move my family to a pup tent and we hitchhike, and rob banks, maybe we can afford this. C’mon. It isn’t worth that, for my budget or anyone’s. Remember, you have no way of knowing if the treatment is even helping. The drug maker’s marginal cost is what? Eighteen cents?

I know my blog audience includes people that are rich, and people that are generous, or both, but I'm not soliciting, or accepting donations. I put the amounts only to give you a sense of either how jaw-dropping it was (or how cheap I am.) If Bill Gates told me he would pay for it, I still wouldn’t do it, not at $500 a pop. That is crazy. Let's see: An experimental treatment for me each month or feed Ghana? Hmmmm. I’m hoping that there is still some miscommunication within the complex insurance-reimbursement labyrinth but if not, I won’t continue the monthly therapy. It is that simple. I can to back to the shots for $35 a month.

7 comments:

Rachel said...

$500, that is unbelievable. Maybe if was tried and true through and through, but experimental???? So there is no way to know if it is working at all huh?

David said...

By experimental I mean that when they tested it over a two year period, something like 65% of the particpants had fewer flare ups than the group receiving a placebo. I'm not even sure whan I'm having a flare up anyway, so if I was in the study I don't know how I would report that. (How would that be to get 24 infusions only to find out it was a placebo and the drug company is hoping that you're doing awful?)

Jess Bowers said...

Hi David,
I work with your cousin (I believe) Sondra Swensen. My husband of only three months at the time was diagnosed with MS on December 13th, 2006. The disease and its symptoms/side effects have handed Seth and I the biggest challenges of our lives as individuals, or as a couple in our lives to date. I am happy to report that yesterday (the same day as your first infusion), my husband had his THIRTEENTH Tysabri infusion - and the drug seems to be working very well for him. We were previously giving him Avonex injections weekly, and they did nothing for slowing the progression for him, and he felt horrible all of the time. I'm happy to report that his fatigue levels have decreased SUBSTANTIALLY since beginning Tysabri, and he feels almost "normal" (whatever that is!)for more than 3 weeks out of the month. I want to wish you the very best of luck with your treatments, and thank you for sharing your "silver lining".

Kind Regards,
Jess Bowers

Anonymous said...

David,

Seth here, It is all in how they bill the insurance. My Doctor bills $4,300 total for the infusion. Our insurance pays 70%. But how they split the bill matters. I get billed for chemotherapy and a "injection". They end up paying 70% of the chemo portion and 100% for the injection. It is still expensive, truck payment expensive but I feel horrid without it. So it is worth it for me. Get in touch with your cousin and get my number. Maybe I can help.

Unknown said...

Sorry, can't resist!

Marginal production costs for pharmaceuticals are low, but the R&D costs are very high and it is a higher risk investment. The high profit margin is the incentive for innovation.

David said...

First, to Jeff, you are right, but that doesn't mean $4,600 is the optimal price. Maybe they should charge more, perhaps less. I'm just saying that if the cost to me is to steep, they'll get zero, which helps no one. We need to find a way to segment their demand curve.

To Seth and Jess - welcome and yes, Sondra is my cousin. She is my only cousin my same age, even though she looks much younger than me! Thanks for the advice; I'm sure that there is some way that the cost to me is more reasonable. I'm sorry to learn that Seth has MS, but I am glad the Tysabri is working. That is great. I was on Rebif for 21 months, and it might have been working based on no new lesions, but man, all my symptoms kept getting gradually worse, so we're trying this.

Sondra said...

I AM younger than you by 5 months:)But as far as younger looking, well that's all a matter of perspective. Mine is definitely different than yours, but thanks for the compliment. Thanks also for letting me share your blog. I truly enjoy learning how you are living with MS with your humor and perpetual positive attitude in tact. I know it is helpful for others.